times Member of the Entourage Question

08 Jul 2011 11:33 - 07 Feb 2013 11:17 #6055 by erewego
Member of the Entourage
Mortal with 2 life, 0 strength, 0 bleed. This ally cannot take actions. During a (D) action directed at you, this ally may burn 1 life to get +1 intercept. Burn this ally if he successfully blocks a vampire (no combat occurs).
[DRAFT]:
 as above.

Basically, can you burn extra life to get more intercept? Even if it burns him?
Example:
Someone plays Entrancement and attempts to steal a Member of the Entourage at one stealth. Member of the Entourage burns a life to get 1 int to block. Entrancement gets another stealth. Can I burn another life to get another intercept, which burns Member of the Entourage causing the action to fail?

Also, if I have Vagabond Mystic, is there a window in above example to add another life?

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Last edit: 07 Feb 2013 11:17 by Pascal Bertrand.

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08 Jul 2011 11:48 #6056 by Pascal Bertrand

erewego wrote: Member of the Entourage
Mortal with 2 life, 0 strength, 0 bleed. This ally cannot take actions. During a (D) action directed at you, this ally may burn 1 life to get +1 intercept. Burn this ally if he successfully blocks a vampire (no combat occurs).
[DRAFT]:

 as above.

Basically, can you burn extra life to get more intercept? Even if it burns him?
Example:
Someone plays Entrancement and attempts to steal a Member of the Entourage at one stealth. Member of the Entourage burns a life to get 1 int to block. Entrancement gets another stealth. Can I burn another life to get another intercept, which burns Member of the Entourage causing the action to fail?

Member of Entourage can burn 1 life to get +1 intercept once per action ("During X do Y" template).
With a Member of Entourage having 1 life at the beginning of the action, if it burns 1 life to get +1 intercept in this action, it burns (provided it doesn't gain life in between). If the action was sup' Far Mastery, it fizzles (no cost is paid).

erewego wrote: Also, if I have Vagabond Mystic, is there a window in above example to add another life?

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Adam

If the acting minion plays inf' Crocodile's Tongue, there is a window after burning the life to cancel CT, and before burning a blood for +1 intercept.

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08 Jul 2011 12:14 #6060 by erewego
Thanks... but why can I only do it once? Wording seems similar to Maris Streck
Camarilla Justicar: Maris can burn a blood to give a blocking minion +1 intercept. She can take a +1 stealth action to allow you to look at and rearrange the top 5 cards of your library.

So if the Member of the Entourage has 3 life (or 4 or 5...) I can't burn more then one life as the stealth is increased?

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08 Jul 2011 12:20 - 08 Jul 2011 12:20 #6061 by Ankha
Because Maris lacks the "During X do Y" template.
In VTES, this template limits to once per X the use of Y.

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08 Jul 2011 12:23 #6062 by Pascal Bertrand

erewego wrote: Thanks... but why can I only do it once? Wording seems similar to Maris Streck
Camarilla Justicar: Maris can burn a blood to give a blocking minion +1 intercept. She can take a +1 stealth action to allow you to look at and rearrange the top 5 cards of your library.

Wording is slightly different.
Maris' cardtext doesn't involve "During". Therefore, you can use any number of times to get intercept in an action.
"During X do Y" is a template used in several cards that limits the possibilities of doing X to once per X.
Usual examples: Temptation (it only adds 1 counter per Master Phase), Blood Doll (it doesn't work like Minion Tap), sup' Drawing out the Beast doesn't inflict several damage during the press step, ..


erewego wrote: So if the Member of the Entourage has 3 life (or 4 or 5...) I can't burn more then one life as the stealth is increased?

Can't burn more than 1 life to get intercept per its cardtext, correct.

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08 Jul 2011 15:26 #6070 by Izaak
Now that you're the new rules guy can we get Maris Streck her special re-ruled to be no longer broken? :D

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