Crypt card redesign

BenPeal wrote: Can we see what the cards would look like using the following specifications as given by the Rules Team, Design Team, and Art Team?

- Fixed text box size (4 lines of text).
- Advanced icon directly below the clan icon instead of at the top of the disciplines.
- Clan name removed.

Sure, although 4 lines of text is not a fixed size. That would depend on the font size, spacing, amount of text and even the characters used.

For the below I've just used the average height inner circle text:





















The empty white space looks tragic on the cards without much text — they almost look unfinished, like someone doesn't care.

And even the cards with a decent amount of text can have padding inconsistencies — this correlates with my above statement that 4 lines of text is not a fixed height. Yes, you can adjust leading, kerning and font-size according (the system does some of this) — however readability soon goes down the toilet once these fall out of certain ranges.

BenPeal wrote: Rules Team, Design Team, and Art Team

That would be you, Mike, Pascal, Vincent and Gines — correct?

And here's a Helena Advance comparison without the advance icon:

Ke. wrote: The empty white space looks tragic on the cards without much text — they almost look unfinished, like someone doesn't care.

That's exactly because they're unfinished. They don't have the proper leading, spacing, kerning, font sizing, etc. For the V:EKN sets, Vincent created a card generator that has logic to cover those things. Did he share it with you? It doesn't give us the quality one would get from a professional typesetter, but lacking the funds for that it's working quite well.

As for fixed-sized box vs. un-fixed-sized box, I really like the consistency of the overall look of the fixed-sized box. It's especially noticeable when you look at a row of cards side by side. For me, the un-fixed-size box results in a jumbled look when the cards are seen side by side. Having only two text box sizes aids in cross-table crypt-vs-library recognition.

Quick note: your generator isn't bolding the Laibon sect and Magaji title.

Another note: How about toning down the text box by making it a shade of grey? The white seems kinda loud.

BenPeal wrote: Rules Team, Design Team, and Art Team

That would be you, Mike, Pascal, Vincent and Gines — correct?

Correct.

Ke. wrote: And here's a Helena Advance comparison without the advance icon:

Hey, thanks for looking into this one. It's definitely the worst-case issue for attribute bar problems. From a Design Team perspective, I'd be inclined to have a hard limit of six disciplines regardless of whether the vampire is Advanced. Helena Adv and Don Cerro are fun curiosities, but I doubt I'd make more of them. Perhaps it might come up if there was a canon reason to add a discipline to a Advanced vampire who already has six disciplines, but that could also be addressed in merged text.