Lazarus

Ohlmann wrote:

Kraus wrote: So, while I do not completely disagree with Ohlmann here, I definitely see uses for Archon Investigation for example in deck types like Setites, !Gangrel, TruBru, Brujah, Samedi, etc.

I don't have time to response to everything, but I want to point out that AI is not unplayable. It's just not an auto-include in multiple in every decks, and consequently basing a card balance on the fact that the majority will play AI is a bad idea.

Oh, I couldn't agree more. Not a single card should be an auto-include, and AI isn't even close.

Still, it's pretty good in my opinion.

@Ohlmann & Kraus:
You can't list ANY cards that people automatically recommend to be put into almost ANY deck?? I can think of at least two that everyone either a) puts into a deck or b) assumes everyone else will have in their deck.

- Carlton van Wyck
- Pentex Subversion

Juggernaut1981 wrote: @Ohlmann & Kraus:
You can't list ANY cards that people automatically recommend to be put into almost ANY deck??

I have not said that there were no auto-include card, just that AI is not one of it. AI is not even something that will be played by at least one person in every table like wash (or equivalent), or DI.

I agree with Juggernaut and Karus that AI pretty good.
I also agree wth Juggernaut when he said that a cross-table fall can be a good long-term move.