Deck - There is bleed beyond death

Any thoughts on this deck? The former versions had reaction cards (wakes and bleed-bounce cards) and more stealth action modifiers , but they proved to interfere with its strategy slowing this deck down.


Deck Name : There is bleed beyond death
Author : Damnans
Description : Put a Harbinger of Skulls in play (preferrably one with . Villein him or her down to 2 blood (or to zero blood if you already have Lilith's Blessing in play, so that he or she can get 3 blood from the blood bank). Have that vampire play Revelations at inferior to remove a bleed-bounce card (mainly) or an Archon Investigation (more unlikely, since you want to get burned eventually) from your prey's hand. Then have that Harbinger of Skulls play superior Force of Will to bleed for 3, superior Trochomancy and Daring the Dawn at inferior in order to make him or her burn after the action resolves. On your next turn, play Blessed Resilience to bring that burned Harbinger of Skulls back in play and tap Lilith's Blessing to give him or her 3 blood (you'd better have a Parthenon and/or Anson in play by then, or the Coven). If you manage to equip Unre with the Soul Gem of Etrius, you may get some vampires for free and at full capacity . The fact that the resurrected vampire no longer has the Bahari counter he or she may have had earlier is key to have the chance to use Lilith's Blessing on the "same" vampire more than once.


Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 7 max: 9 average: 7.83333

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3x Unre, Keeper of Go bishop g2
3x Egothha g2
2x Anisa Marianna Lop g2
2x Anson prince g1
2x Gisela Harden, The priscus g2


Library [90 cards]

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Action [16]
10x Force of Will
6x Revelations

Action Modifier [25]
4x Call of the Hungry Dead
2x Crocodile's Tongue
10x Daring the Dawn
1x Kiss of Ra, The
8x Trochomancy

Action Modifier /Reaction [4]
4x Spectral Divination

Combat [7]
7x Spiritual Intervention

Equipment [1]
1x Soul Gem of Etrius

Event [1]
1x Anthelios, The Red Star

Master [36]
3x Ashur Tablets
8x Blessed Resilience
1x Coven, The
3x Dreams of the Sphinx
5x Lilith's Blessing
3x Parthenon, The
1x Pentex(TM) Loves You!
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
10x Villein
1x Wider View

Adonai wrote: Damnans,

Your vampire regaining strategy seems to suffer if more than 1 of your vampires takes offensive actions. Eight pool seems to be an expensive way to pay for a second Parthenon. Any room for an Information Highway to ensure that you get that non vampire in play as soon as possible?

Good Call. I'll drop Kiss of Ra and add an Information Highway instead. Although I am also tempted to add a House of Sorrows, which would allow me to use the Parthenon twice in a given turn.

Adonai wrote: Any room for Leverage instead of a Trochomancy? I'm not a big fan of cards that require other players to have used more cards than you have, and once you've taken 7-14-21 / 13-26-39 cards away from a prey, it becomes increasingly difficult to play more than one on the same turn.

It may not be a good idea, since Leverage requires me to already have the edge, which I won't probably have if I only control one vampire or two (this deck usually has either one or two vampires + Anson in play). However, if I happen to draw one of the 8 Trochomancies too early in the game, I will discard it and retrieve it from the ash heap later with the Ashur Tablets.

It is not like I intend to use all my Trochomancies on a single Methuselah. I hope to oust more than one in a game , so these bleed modifier would actually burn cards in different Methuselah's ash heaps.

Last Friday I tested this version of the deck and just had to discard one early Trochomancy. I swept a 4 player table, but I was on the verge of destruction several times.

Juggernaut1981 wrote: Why not use the other groupings?

I considered it, but the average capacity of group 4-5 vampires with is higher than that of group 1-2, and therefore would slow me down (see below).

Juggernaut1981 wrote: And honestly, I'm stunned not to see one or two Slaughterhouses in here... but with all of those Blessed Resilience & Villein, I get the feeling you're trying to build about 3 decks into 1.

There is not enough room for any Slaughterhouses, since the deck has other priorities.

Juggernaut1981 wrote: 3x Troglodytia 10 Samedi:4
3x Mordechai Ben-Nun 8 Harbinger:5
2x Babalawo Alafin 7 Harbinger:4
2x Zygodat 6 Harbinger:4
2x Solomon Batanea 5 Harbinger:4

Zygodat and Solomon are not an option, since they cannot be resurrected with Blessed Resilience.

You did not mention another compatible vampire with and :

Lady Constancia :5

Juggernaut1981 wrote: Then you'd bring out a big one, villein them, grab a soul gem, burn them and then bring them back with either a Possession or a Blessed Resilience. Grab the soul gem, suicide bleed, Blessed Resilience...

This is not a turbo deck, and the Soul Gem is merely incidental.

Juggernaut1981 wrote: But honestly, this looks like the complex version of the old Turbo Baron right? Wasn't it basically, Baron grabs gem, explodes, little vampire Possesses the Baron back into play who grabs the gem... etc etc etc

The Turbo Baron is a turbo deck with the ability to bring out all vampires in your crypt in a single turn. Mine is not