Sequencing and checking for triggers

12 Oct 2018 13:40 #91166 by Khaan

Replied by Khaan on topic Sequencing and checking for triggers

A bit off track from OP, but what if the "burn during master phase" of Camarilla segregation instead was "burn during untap". Could you then burn one (1) vamp to burn both the AA and the camarilla segregation cards?

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12 Oct 2018 13:45 #91167 by DJHedgehog

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Khaan wrote: A bit off track from OP, but what if the "burn during master phase" of Camarilla segregation instead was "burn during untap". Could you then burn one (1) vamp to burn both the AA and the camarilla segregation cards?

No. Burning a vampire is a cost.

You can layer your untap however you want. That means that you would check each card individually in the order of your choice. If you burn the non-cam vampire and have no other non-cam vamps then you would check the card as part of your untap and not meet its requirements.

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14 Oct 2018 17:00 #91190 by Timo

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Bloodartist wrote: So you are basically asking do the "effects go in stack" like they would in magic the gathering. Afaik the answer is no(?) and the case you referred to seems to have been ruled wrongly...?

I am fairly certain that if you would take damage from fame, there are some other contradictory rulings elsewhere waiting...

I am pretty sure it can be handle like that.

BUT, you could if you wanted for some special trick decide to burn a pool for camarilla segregation and then burn your vamp and AA.

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16 Oct 2018 13:44 #91215 by Ankha

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Klaital wrote: He starts his untap phase, untaps all his cards, then checks for effects that happen during untap phase, for simplicity's sake let's say there is no other effects but these two.

First, he chooses to resolve Antediluvian Awakening, burning his vampire to burn the AA.
Second he chooses to resolve Camarilla Seg, that checks that he does not control any non-camarilla vampires and thus does nothing.
Then he moves on to his master phase with no unresolved untap phase effects.

The camarilla seg effect isn't denied from triggering, it just does not do anything since he does not control non-cam vampire when he triggers it.

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