VTES VEKN tshirts?

No eBay APP ID défined in Kunena configurationDoes anyone have any tshirts designed for the game or the network? I think that would be a good way for VEKN to raise funds.

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We aren't allowed to make money if we print t-shirts for the game.

All VTES shirts are free additional prizes that come in tournament kits (= you pay for the boosters AND get some free promo cards and a t-shirt).

Besides VEKN isn't even hadnling those, per se.

Lönkka wrote: We aren't allowed to make money if we print t-shirts for the game.

All VTES shirts are free additional prizes that come in tournament kits (= you pay for the boosters AND get some free promo cards and a t-shirt).

Besides VEKN isn't even hadnling those, per se.

Okay, how about tshirts sold "at cost" so VEKN doesn't make money off of them?

Since VEKN isnät a financial entity or anything who would take care of this business/moneytary side? So why would we want to raise money in the first place?

Besides anything involving us to VTES and money will mean that we'll probably get hammered by the layer's of the license owners (WotC and CCP). No Sirree, I don't like it!

Lönkka wrote: Since VEKN isnät a financial entity or anything who would take care of this business/moneytary side? So why would we want to raise money in the first place?

Besides anything involving us to VTES and money will mean that we'll probably get hammered by the layer's of the license owners (WotC and CCP). No Sirree, I don't like it!

Because raising money allows you to do more awesome things then you could do without it. Legally it is called a en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_association and case law already exists of it. An accountant and business development person with non-profit experience would be enough to take care of this.

They can also ask for permission from the IP holders without getting sued. Use some imagination.

White Sabbat wrote:

Lönkka wrote: Since VEKN isnät a financial entity or anything who would take care of this business/moneytary side? So why would we want to raise money in the first place?

Besides anything involving us to VTES and money will mean that we'll probably get hammered by the layer's of the license owners (WotC and CCP). No Sirree, I don't like it!

Because raising money allows you to do more awesome things then you could do without it. Legally it is called a en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_association and case law already exists of it. An accountant and business development person with non-profit experience would be enough to take care of this.

They can also ask for permission from the IP holders without getting sued. Use some imagination.

Theres no NEED. The only thing of large benefit to us is the game seeing print again. Negotiations are still existant, and anything that could harm those is a bad idea.
If any of the IP owners or interested properties make us in print, shirts and such matter. Until that time, this international volunteer organization has to maintain a playerbase to make printing attractive to IP holders.

I dont see what you think we can do with t shirt funds that cant be done with tourney costs to cover prize support, if needed. There isnt a big enough benefit.