Giovanni Preconstructed Starter Doubled

I really like the way you explained this. If i wanted to add more grave robbing what would you suggest i take out? Also, I would love to expand on this deck mainly out of all the mashups ive seen, would you guys mind suggesting crypt(aside from the opnes already mentioned) and library cards and the quantity of each that you would consider purchasing to swap out with other cards in this deck?? I really dig giovanni and would love to make a very competitive deck. Thanx for your help though as in general i want to have as many decks as possible for a hopeful playgroup.

muushupork wrote: I really like the way you explained this.

Which one? We ended up with decks that will play very differently, because of the Shambling Hordes.

muushupork wrote: If i wanted to add more grave robbing what would you suggest i take out?

From mine, Siphon and Compel the Spirit.
From Andy's I would take out Chill of Oblivion.

muushupork wrote: Also, I would love to expand on this deck mainly out of all the mashups ive seen, would you guys mind suggesting crypt (aside from the ones already mentioned) and library cards and the quantity of each that you would consider purchasing to swap out with other cards in this deck?

I would want the deck to run on the youngest vampires with all of the disciplines that you want to use at the highest level possible. See also: Rows and Rows of the Finest Virtuosos

Group 4 Giovanni
Crypt [16 vampires] Capacity min: 2 max: 10 average: 5.9375

1x	Carmine Giovanni	(10)		2 votes		(g4)
1x	Lady Constancia	(10)		2 votes		(g4)
1x	Guillaume Giovanni	(9)				(g4)
1x	Baldesar Rossellini	(				(g4)
1x	Don Michael Antonio Giovanni	(7)		2 votes		(g4)
1x	Gualtiero Ghiberti	(7)				(g4)
1x	Benedict Giovanni, Agent	(6)				(g4)
1x	Francis Milliner	(6)				(g4)
1x	Raphaela Giovanni	(6)				(g4)
1x	Donatello Giovanni	(5)				(g4)
1x	Margaret Milliner	(5)				(g4)
1x	Primo Giovanni	(4)				(g4)
1x	Thomasso Ghiberti	(4)				(g4)
1x	Almodo Giovanni	(3)				(g4)
1x	Nunzio Giovanni	(3)				(g4)
1x	Cristobal Ghiberti	(2)				(g4)

Group 5 Giovanni
Crypt [10 vampires] Capacity min: 2 max: 10 average: 6.2

1x	Luna Giovanni	(10)		1 vote		(g5)
1x	Lorenzo Detuono	(9)				(g5)
1x	Diego Giovanni	(				(g5)
1x	Giovanni del Georgio	(				(g5)
1x	Paolo Sardenzo	(7)				(g5)
1x	Accorri Giovanni	(6)				(g5)
1x	Gianmaria Giovanni	(5)				(g5)
1x	Kay Polerno	(4)				(g5)
1x	Stephen Milliner	(3)				(g5)
1x	Eric Milliner	(2)				(g5)

Do you like the rush/combat aspect, the returning items from your Ash Heap aspect, the Shambling Hordes aspect? I would want to reinforce whichever part of it that appeals to you. In either deck incarnation, Fame should make an appearance. I'd also be partial to On the Qui Vive (for the Hordes) and Wake with Evening's Freshness over the Eluding the Arms of Orpheus. I'd also want 6-8 more Shambling Hordes if you find that they are fun to play.

Here is a collection of Giovanni decks that you could migrate the starters towards: www.thelasombra.com/decks/clan-twd.htm#Giovanni

I like the WAY both types of decks were described. I really like rush combat and the other ash heap type deck. Mainly i like the style of the giovanni clan and would like to get the most out of them. Both deck types will be fun for me to play. But in both cases i think i have what i need. Im pretty sure i have all the grp 4 and 5 crypt cards as i bought a few booster boxes of both KMW and LotN along with playgroup support from david tatu.
I should be able to make both decks and fine tune them as long as i can get a playgroup going. Slowly but surely i have been finding new local gaming centers and today i spoke to a couple guys who seem like they are open. I know this is the wrong thread but justy to keep you posted.

here are example crypts that I would use for different styles of giovanni decks, maybe these will help you!

DOM/NEC power bleed

group 2-3
1x Lia Milliner
1x Gloria Giovanni
2x Isabel Giovanni
2x Le Dinh Tho
1x Stefano Giovanni
2x Gillespi Giovanni
1x Andrea Giovanni
2x Enzo Giovanni

Group 4-5 (with enough potence for cold aura + sewer lid combat module)
1x Prejudice
1x Primo Giovanni
2x Donatello Giovanni
2x Raphaela Giovanni
2x Don Michael Antonio Giovanni
1x Gualtiero Ghiberti
2x Diego Giovanni
1x Giovanni Del Georgio

DOM/POT bruise bleed/rush

group 3-4 (with fortitude)
1x Almodo Giovanni
2x Lorrie Dunsirn
1x Donatello Giovanni
2x Benedict Giovanni
3x Baldesar Rossellini
3x Ignazio Giovanni

TYVM that is exactly what i was looking for! I looked through my collection last night and really only need to fill in from groups 2-3 i think!

muushupork wrote: TYVM that is exactly what i was looking for! I looked through my collection last night and really only need to fill in from groups 2-3 i think!

Muushu I just posted a Giovanni deck to this forum that you might want to take a look at. Its fairly easy to build, using mostly commons and cards found from various starters.