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Chaitan wrote:

Lech wrote: I had the deck (or similar build, the same player) as a prey in one final round, and it's way less scary with it's main vampire in torpor.

Yeah, block decks are very powerful at controlling the table, especially in low combat meta, but they are always fighting against time(-outs) and tool-box, bruise&bleed or rush deck can often quite easily destroy it.

Goratrix is very powerful when fighting against most frequently used combat packages (FOR sticks, CC+Aids from bats, casual .44 [even with cel],Thefts, Thrown crap potence ... even regular potence or warghouls are not that scary for goratrix - ruins of ceoris and some other perma-maneuver and it's way harder). It's good vampire with great special and good discipline set. But it's a star with nearly no way to deal with pentex contest aside.

Lech wrote: It's good vampire with great special and good discipline set. But it's a star with nearly no way to deal with pentex contest aside.

Anarch Convert and a lot of other 1- and 2-caps (especially the ones with ) disagree with this analysis.

Boris The Blade wrote:

Pagan wrote: Because Goratrix is not played nearly enough.

This. It takes a star vampire to make more appealing than .

I'd argue that even more important than his special, as awesome as it may be, is he has.

KevinM wrote:

Lech wrote: It's good vampire with great special and good discipline set. But it's a star with nearly no way to deal with pentex contest aside.

Anarch Convert and a lot of other 1- and 2-caps (especially the ones with ) disagree with this analysis.

Well, the player who played the Pentex know that they won't stealth, and they won't do anything important in the combat. So they are pretty easy to block.

Kiddo wrote: I'd argue that even more important than his special, as awesome as it may be, is he has.

Well, mainly for Magic of the smith, and mainly because Ruin of Ceoris are awesome.

KevinM wrote:

Lech wrote: It's good vampire with great special and good discipline set. But it's a star with nearly no way to deal with pentex contest aside.

Anarch Convert and a lot of other 1- and 2-caps (especially the ones with ) disagree with this analysis.

This is totally off topic but it's an interesting subject so I'm going to put it out there that 2-3 vanilla weenies do nothing against a correctly played Pentex on Goratrix. One Wake, Jake, Majesty etc. and one chump left on the defense will be able to protect the Pentex. The only viable solution besides contest is Wash/Sudden, a helpful ally or some otherwise enormous advantage.

Kiddo wrote:

Boris The Blade wrote:

Pagan wrote: Because Goratrix is not played nearly enough.

This. It takes a star vampire to make more appealing than .

I'd argue that even more important than his special, as awesome as it may be, is he has.

I dunno. If I had a wall deck and a choice between infinite Thefts and infinite Magic of The Smiths I would always go for the Thefts.