What should be done with Reversal of Fortune?

Kushiel wrote: To my mind, "it's not played very often" means that banning it would be more or less painless and affect the game very little.

The problem is, people who don't stay tuned on VEKN but play VtES. The more card ban there is, the more likely they will play a deck with a random Reversal of Fortune and don't understand why the deck is "illegal".

That's why ban and erratas should be sparse : we don't want to require knowing this site to play.

Ohlmann wrote:

Kushiel wrote: To my mind, "it's not played very often" means that banning it would be more or less painless and affect the game very little.

The problem is, people who don't stay tuned on VEKN but play VtES. The more card ban there is, the more likely they will play a deck with a random Reversal of Fortune and don't understand why the deck is "illegal".

That's why ban and erratas should be sparse : we don't want to require knowing this site to play.

You don't need to abide by the VEKN tournament rules to play VTES. Not that I want to play a casual game with Madness of the Bard.

The problem is, people who don't stay tuned on VEKN but play VtES. The more card ban there is, the more likely they will play a deck with a random Reversal of Fortune and don't understand why the deck is "illegal".

That's why ban and erratas should be sparse : we don't want to require knowing this site to play.

This is completely redundant. You have ALWAYS had to check up on the latest tournament rules and errata when wanting to play competitive VTES and have never had to when you just played it casual.

Since there is no other official website than this one and the old White Wolf link in fact points towards this one, there is absolutely no way someone will randomly show up with an illegal deck on a tournament without knowledge of this website.

For any non-tournament situation where someone would show up without knowledge of the latest card-texts and banlists you can just use common sense and let the guy play his 1 copy of Reversal of Fortune and gently point out that this card is banned for official play. Just as has always been the case.

Izaak wrote: For any non-tournament situation where someone would show up without knowledge of the latest card-texts and banlists you can just use common sense and let the guy play his 1 copy of Reversal of Fortune and gently point out that this card is banned for official play. Just as has always been the case.

And have alway worked because ban and erratas are not that numerous, especially thoses without a lot of correct reprint.

What exactly is "not numerous"?

Because on the website I'm looking at the errata/ruling/clarification list is divided into 5 seperate pages, that are all several pages long.

There is literally HUNDREDS of them. How is that "not numerous"?

Ohlmann wrote: we don't want to require knowing this site to play.

The VEKN disagrees. See: Villein.